Oppo, What about a Corrado?

"K-Roll-PorscheTamer" (k-roll390)
07/24/2014 at 18:30 • Filed to: Winter

Or something with a VR6?? Are those any good? Reliable?

DISCUSSION (85)

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:30

reliable? fuck no
fun? FUCK YES

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
07/24/2014 at 18:31

DAMMIT!!

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:32

seriously though. the engine itself is really reliable. it's the electrics that i'd be worried about. still nothing worse than any other 90's car

Manuél Ferrari > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
07/24/2014 at 18:35

This is the exact car that made me scared of FWD! My cousin had one when I was in high school. I had only driven RWD before he let me drive it. I went around a big turn too fast and nearly shit myself.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Manuél Ferrari
07/24/2014 at 18:35

GRIP huh?

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:36

good? nope

reliable? fuck no

but i love it!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
07/24/2014 at 18:37

Srsly. I suck at picking cars. So this would be a bad winter car then?

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:37

No. They aren't....but this is one of the only VW's I've ever had a full on lust for.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman
07/24/2014 at 18:37

SMH -_-

Dsscats > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:37

If you want something reliable, why are you looking at 944s?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dsscats
07/24/2014 at 18:38

Still on topic of winter car; which the 944 is not.

Manuél Ferrari > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
07/24/2014 at 18:38

It had so much grip, until it didn't!

And I didn't know what to do about it. Wasn't sure if I should let off the gas a bit and then get back on it or stay on the gas and pray

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:40

YOU DRIVE AN ST AND YOU'RE BAD AT PICKING?

Dude, this is an aweosome choice. I love VR6 corrados.

Textured Soy Protein > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:40

You just won't listen to me about Subarus huh?

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Manuél Ferrari
07/24/2014 at 18:42

stay and pray every time. you let off pre-turn in FWD's

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
07/24/2014 at 18:43

Maybe? I mean from what I'm hearing, this isn't the most dependable car to drive in winter...

Dsscats > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:43

The Corrado is actually a pretty reliable car, but NEVER get a G60. Only a VR6. Also, what about a 190e?

CAR_IS_MI > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:44

Are you still looking for a winter beater?

Manuél Ferrari > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
07/24/2014 at 18:44

Ah that's why it was so scary! Stay and pray is foreign to me. With RWD you can let off and manage the slide for a sec with some oppo then get back on. Stay and pray is so weird to me!

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:44

let me put it to you this way: is any damn near 20 YO VW reliable in the winter?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Textured Soy Protein
07/24/2014 at 18:44

I looked! This is all I got..

http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/4563182526…

http://jxn.craigslist.org/cto/4554608874…

I just can't find a manual! -_-

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Manuél Ferrari
07/24/2014 at 18:45

I stay and pray all the time. #FWDONLYLYFE
...if I go RWD i'm so fucked...

ly2v8-Brian > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:45

K-roll you want a winter car? Get a GM full size they are mechanically sound and handle snow well.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dsscats
07/24/2014 at 18:46

All the Corrados around here are G60s. What about a VR6 Golf?? and I'd have to pass on a 190e.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > CAR_IS_MI
07/24/2014 at 18:47

YES! I just can't do this right! Everyone gives me good options but then I turn them down because what I want in a winter car, is actually what I want in a summer car! I'm completely backwards on this car and anything that actually makes sense for winter, I don't want...

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
07/24/2014 at 18:48

Probably not,but every car I've asked about isn't good.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > ly2v8-Brian
07/24/2014 at 18:49

I cannot. There's a reason I've been asking only about compacts and such.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:49

it'd be the best performance car, and it'd sound the best. it's the one you'd love!

Textured Soy Protein > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:50

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/450189…

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/455288…

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/ctd/458188…

CAR_IS_MI > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:50

Ill sell you a 1990 Eclipse GSX. Turbo 4 AWD so quick and fun in summer but AWD for winter...

Nibbles > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:52

If you want a "reliable" winter beater that not everyone drives, get a Saab C900 turbo (not a 1989). The only thing you really have to worry about is vacuum lines.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
07/24/2014 at 18:52

But all the ones here are G60...

Dsscats > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:52

No G60. Ever. and GTI VR6, sure, but I'd shy from the Golfs.

Manuél Ferrari > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
07/24/2014 at 18:53

No way RWD is easier!

Stay and pray is scary, lol

therevengeofthesaab (really likes pre-2005 hondas right now) > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:53

Is the VR6 reliable: No

Is the regular one reliable: For a German car, yes

Is it fun: From what I heard, hell yes

The engine itself is quite reliable, it is the electronics, I heard a car mechanic say all you have to do is cover the battery so water does not leak in, cause there is a gap between the windshield and hood.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > CAR_IS_MI
07/24/2014 at 18:53

Eh.... :(

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Textured Soy Protein
07/24/2014 at 18:56

Does this one have a dent in the rear? Also, I'm a bit(read as very) worried about such high miles..

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/450189…

therevengeofthesaab (really likes pre-2005 hondas right now) > Textured Soy Protein
07/24/2014 at 18:56

I heard boxer engine have huge repair fees, and they break often when they get old.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:57

G60=BOOM

stay away.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Manuél Ferrari
07/24/2014 at 18:58

stay and pray=teenagers, like me lol

CAR_IS_MI > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 18:58

How 'bout this

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/454574…

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dsscats
07/24/2014 at 18:59

Everything I'm picking is shit!

Mustang, Camaro, Fiero, Firebird, Corrado, G60, VR6 anything, any Subaru I've looked at; all of them were rubbish! I cannot find or pick good cars for crap.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > therevengeofthesaab (really likes pre-2005 hondas right now)
07/24/2014 at 18:59

General idea is to avoid, so I'll avoid it unfortunately.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > CAR_IS_MI
07/24/2014 at 19:00

Kinja'd!!!

Textured Soy Protein > therevengeofthesaab (really likes pre-2005 hondas right now)
07/24/2014 at 19:03

Aside from needing head gaskets perhaps more frequently than other cars, they're mostly fine.

Textured Soy Protein > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 19:09

Looks like there's a dent behind the gas door, and some rust around the wheel well.

I know you're all like, "waaaahhhhh, I don't want a wagon" but you should get this:

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/ctd/458188…

Karrbon Fiber > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 19:12

How about a 4x4 truck. Nothing says "I'm ready for winter" like a 4x4. My Ranger has been pretty damn reliable in the 110k I've had her.

Manuél Ferrari > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
07/24/2014 at 19:12

I had to learn oppo when I was a teenager cause my Dad was crazy enough to give me an old RWD bimmer and let me drive his old RWD 911 and massive RWD 1970 Chevy pickup with a 454 in it! That truck was so long and insane

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Karrbon Fiber
07/24/2014 at 19:15

This is why no: http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/oppo-k-roll-is…

And I know everyone's like "give trucks a chance!", I just can't because I know nothing good will come from it for me.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Textured Soy Protein
07/24/2014 at 19:18

Maybe? I'm running low on optimism for this winter car as is.

Textured Soy Protein > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 19:21

Food for thought: the '03 Impreza 2.5TS wagon weighs 325 lbs less than the '01 Legacy GT Limited sedan.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Textured Soy Protein
07/24/2014 at 19:27

Could I find a WRX within my budget?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dsscats
07/24/2014 at 19:29

Sorry, this is just frustrating; I can't just pick one and stick with it. -_-

Textured Soy Protein > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 19:36

I dunno, maaaaaybe a really beat up clapped out one?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Textured Soy Protein
07/24/2014 at 19:43

What about this thing?

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/447912…

banjo cat ghost of oppo past > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 20:02

loaned a friend's slammed black VR6 in Denver for a while it was fun to rev the piss out of the wide pen exhaust and play with the automatic spoiler in traffic with appreciative Porsche's and...other Corrados? Just as good in the winter as any other solid VW. The interiors are pretty baller/comfy in leather too.

twochevrons > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 20:08

Once you pass that magic 10-year mark, reliability of ANY car is a bit of a crapshoot. It becomes much more about each particular car – it's specific quirks, how it's been maintained, that kind of thing – than about car makes and models in general. Sure, some fare better than others, but any older car can be unreliable if it's been neglected.

Also, most interesting cars tend to have weaknesses of some sort. Plus, to be honest, I think that it's damn near criminal to subject such modern classics to winter road conditions. Also, unmodified Corrados are almost extinct, and buying somebody else's project is a sure way to have everything go wrong.

Have you considered a Volvo 850 or early V70? (I know that I harp on about them a lot)? Sure, they're not the most inspiring things to look at, but they drive nicely, they're FWD (with ABS as standard, and traction control on later models), fairly reliable (save for a few minor weaknesses that make themselves known long before they cause problems), and the Turbo and R models are by no means short on power.

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 20:52

Fuck you.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
07/24/2014 at 20:52

Why?

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 20:55

Pick a fucking car already. And don't give me the bitchy "I can't find the right one excuse" or "I can't pick a good car". I am sick of you asking about all of this. You say you will get something and one hour later you want something else. WTF man?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Dsscats
07/24/2014 at 21:01

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

The VR6 is the most horriffic nightmare of reliability in the VAG lineup.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 21:03

Remember how much I ranted against your original plan to take out a loan for an old 944? My opinion of how dumb this plan is uses the original plan as a unit of measurement. This plan is approximately 6 "used 944 loans" in terms of sheer stupidity to do. It will never work when you need or want it to and you will spend more time and money trying to keep it on the road than your 944.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 21:03

Pony cars and subarus are great for cheap. Or just admit it might be better to get something boring and go with that?....OR MAYBE JUST GET A FREAKIN TRUCK ALREADY!!!!!!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
07/24/2014 at 21:08

I JUST DONT FUCKING KNOW ALRIGHT?? EXCUSE ME!! SORRY IM NOT PERFECT IN MY DECISION MAKING! SORRY I CANT MAKE UP MY FUCKING MIND ON THIS SHIT! SORRY I CANT PLEASE YOU WITH THIS SHIT; IM NOT FUCKING PERFECT AND I DONT NEED YOU TO CALL ME OUT ON THIS SHIT! OH AND EXCUSE ME FOR BEING CURIOUS, OR IS THAT WRONG AS WELL!!

As far as I'm concerned, I'm doing nothing wrong with my questioning and you're the only one bitching about it!

WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME ALREADY?? IF I CANT DECIDE, I CANT DECIDE! It's as simple as that; and I'm not gonna stop asking questions because only you are throwing a shit-fit. No one else is taking offense to this but you!

SO GUESS WHAT! I JUST DONT KNOW WHAT I WANT OR NEED! And this coming from the person that wanted a 924s, then a Corrado, and now a fucking GLH?? Why don't you make up your fucking mind and pick a damn car for yourself?? What's your excuse??

Dsscats > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
07/24/2014 at 21:15

Have you heard of the G60!?!?!?

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 21:16

Money. That is my excuse. My family is barely middle class scratch that more like barely poor. We can barely afford 2 vehicles. And the cost to insure a third for a young driver would set us back quite a bit. The work at my Dad's job is slow so there is that. So he might be out of work soon.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Dsscats
07/24/2014 at 21:23

HAVE YOU TRIED TO WORK ON A VR6?!?!?!?!?!?!

Edit - yes I have, I heard about them years ago, I also heard that the VR6 is infinitely harder. Having worked on a friend's G60, you're wrong. The G60 is nightmare fuel. The VR6 corrado is cthulu.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
07/24/2014 at 21:33

Look, I'm sorry about your situation, but I simply cannot help but ask these questions; I find them both entertaining and informative, I learn something new every time I ask. And every time I do, It helps me become a better car enthusiast; if I didn't ask anything, even on the same repetitive subject, I would learn nothing. To me, Oppo is that one community in which I'm allowed to ask those questions freely without any sort of abuse, hate or insults. It's simply better than any forum out there, because it's so diverse; all these different cars and different people, it's what makes Oppo.

If it makes you feel better, I won't post a thread ever again; if it makes you happy and feel better.

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 21:35

Post what you want. It is fine. Just please for the love of God pick something and stick with it and no more switchy crap.

Vicente Esteve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 23:44

K-Roll, first off, I do like that you ask about our opinions, since that is what this site is for! We love cars, and decisions on what to buy is important to us.

I want to say that I don't care if you post 11 million times of not being able to decide. We are here to help! And, my decision is in concordance to that of other people. They say VR6s are solid engines, but its too much maintenance and care for it to be a successful winter beater.

Here is my choices that fit your criteria, I know and respect that you don't like trucks:

1. Any sort of Subaru. Yes, they wont be exciting, and you have to find an unmodded one, but I guess they will be plenty capable.

2. E30 3 series? No, no AWD, but with winter tires and light weight, it should be decent.

3. Honda Element Manual. Why? because utility, and reliability.

4. Scion XB? Why? Because BOX

5. Mazda Protege. Its kind of utilitarian, AND fun.

6. Lexus ES300 Manual. Why? Because rare and you can beat it!

These are some on top of my head, but I can investigate more into your needs! Always a pleasure to help out!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vicente Esteve
07/24/2014 at 23:52

Thanks so much! I greatly appreciate yours and everyone else's help. :)

I like #2 best! Isn't it like the most popular BMW ever?

Vicente Esteve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/24/2014 at 23:55

Tell me where you are and I will find one! ;)

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vicente Esteve
07/24/2014 at 23:58

Michigan! Detroit Metro area :)

Vicente Esteve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/25/2014 at 00:04

Here you go!

1990 E30 325i. Bulletproof, practical, fun, undeniably cool. 160,000 Miles, needs a bit of work, but I see it as a good deal at $2K!

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/454615…

Or, a 1988 535i for 3,200! This is in better shape, and it seems to have better mechanical state. Less miles as well

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/456980…

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vicente Esteve
07/25/2014 at 00:09

I like that 535! I found this 325I:

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/457815…

Vicente Esteve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/25/2014 at 00:24

That one is seriously nice. The color is not perfect though, but still, hoped I helped with choice!

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Vicente Esteve
07/25/2014 at 00:32

I think it helped very much! For helping me so much, I shall give you this! :)

Kinja'd!!!

I think/know I want an E30 now!

How are they in terms of reliability?

Vicente Esteve > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/25/2014 at 00:49

Not quite sure, but Tanner Foust used one as a pickup in Texas, and turned it into a Monster truck. So that should tell you something. Wikipedia it, or go to forums.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Manuél Ferrari
07/25/2014 at 03:35

lucky!
The most "insane car" I've driven is a GTI...

Manuél Ferrari > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
07/25/2014 at 11:48

what year was it?

Karrbon Fiber > K-Roll-PorscheTamer
07/25/2014 at 16:08

1. Too big(I hate big cars); I'm not even comfortable or confident driving a van!

Ranger or S10 is smaller than a full sized car. The wheelbase on a regular cab short bed Ranger is 111.5" . The 2015 Impala is 111.7". 2015 Taurus is 112.9". There are cars on the road that are larger than a Mini truck.

2. Too high(I hate sitting tall in vehicles, for the same reasons above)

It's safer. Better view of the road. I love the view from an International WorkStar dump truck I drive.

3. I don't feel confident driving a truck.

Why?

4. I have no space at my house for a truck in the driveway.

See answer #1

5. I have no use for a truck and it's bed.

You and 90% of Americans. A fiberglass tonneau cover makes your bed into a trunk basically.

6. It's overall useless to me in the non winter season.

They can still get from point A to B in the summer.

7. If the 944 is down for any reason in the spring, summer or fall, I do not want to drive a truck for whatever period of time it is down.

Beats walking and public transport.

8. I hate trucks.

I'm sorry.

9. Parking spaces are too damn small where I'd have to park.

I've parked in tons of downtown parking garages in my SuperCab Ranger.

10. They're not appealing to me in any way.

See answer #8

11. I think I'd be more likely to kill myself in a truck than in anything else!

B.S. I'd venture to say a truck is safer than most cars.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Manuél Ferrari
07/26/2014 at 03:31

It's a 2014 Wolfsberg. Last of the German made MK6's

Manuél Ferrari > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
07/26/2014 at 03:34

No more made in Germany?

:=(

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Manuél Ferrari
07/26/2014 at 03:54

nope, MK7's are made in the same facility as "my" jetta, down in mexico. seeing that our jetta has had less stuff fail on it in 3 times the ownership length, I don't mind it's latino-german roots one bit!

Manuél Ferrari > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power
07/26/2014 at 11:51

haha maybe Latin-Germanic wörk is a good thing then!